It’s our first episode of 2016 and we are talking about the TV shows that we hesitate to admit to loving.
Topics Discussed and/or Spoiled
Golden Globes, Galavant, Once Upon a Time, Star Wars Soundtrack, Hamilton, Bunch o’ Musicals, Sunday night church, Lois and Clark, Brisco County Jr, Ash vs the Evil Dead, The Curse of Lindelof, Batman, Hercules, Xena, seaGuest DSV, Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman, Disney racism, One Bad Mother, Phineas & Ferb, Gilmore Girls, Babylon 5, Sisters, Gotham, Miskatonic Musings, and Debs & Errol
Our outro is Debs & Errol’s Timmy the Combat Wombat
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We haven’t had a good Kolar numbered list comment in awhile, so here we go!
1) Have you seen the honest trailer for Peter Pan? It is AMAZING. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi-cMWcXtBI
2) Babylon 5 definitely is not a guilty pleasure. It is really hard to overstate how mind-blowing it was to watch that show in the 90s. I had never seen anything with that level of serialization and character development before, and while it dates pretty badly, JMS didn’t have a whole lot of models for something that serialized and opted for making it way, way, way too novelistic rather than not novelistic enough. Other shows would go on to perfect it, but I don’t know if they could have without B5 being there first. (And yes, Deep Space 9 was doing similar things and ages much better, but part of that is because DS9 didn’t go into it as whole-hog as B5 did. DS9 was serialized, but it still had recognizable, discrete episodes rather than the kind of “22-hour episode” feel of seasons 3 and 4 of B5. They did it well, and nowadays that kind of balance of serialization and episode structure is really refreshing, but it also wasn’t overly new. Shows like X-Files and even Gargoyles were doing individual episodes within a wider metaplot arc, so DS9 still had one foot in the familiar.)
That said, I totally get the “Seinfeld Is Unfunny” thing with B5, because I just tried to get into Twin Peaks. I can understand and admire what it must have been in the 90s, but today . . . no. Just no.
3) It’s interesting that “guilty pleasure” has such overtones of being junk entertainment, even though sometimes our guilty pleasures are what other people would consider highbrow. My guiltiest guilty pleasure (other than the fact that I would totally watch Dancing With the Stars if I had more free time) is my interest in documentaries. It makes me feel like a pretentious tool, and I always feel like I have to justify that I really did watch “Blackfish” because I thought it sounded interesting rather than because I felt obligated. Tom and I were discussing it, and we think it might have something to do with watching something that conflicts with your general self-image. I don’t think of myself as the kind of person who watches lots of pretentious documentaries, or as the kind of person who watches Dancing With the Stars, so those are guilty pleasures. I do totally think of myself as the kind of person who reads lots of Stephen King, so that isn’t a guilty pleasure for me even though it would be for other people.