Episode 19: Leeman’s Lady Chains

Rachel and Leeman talk about the seedy underbelly of the internet known as the Manosphere and try to wrap their heads around it as best they can.  We also saw Man of Steel and spoil the heck out of it.  (SPOILER: No Krypto)

Topics Discussed and/or Spoiled

Man of Steel, Joss Whedon’ Much Ado About Nothing, Deep Space Nine, PUAs, MRAs, Red Pill Wives, “Nice Guys”, and much much more.

For better discussions of the Manosphere, check out www.doctornerdlove.com and www.manboobz.com and for a map of this strange country, check out their rejected wikipedia article.

Also, this glorious song

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8 Responses to Episode 19: Leeman’s Lady Chains

  1. Robert Sullivan says:

    The Saul Tigh thing would only work if Rachel became an alcoholic.
    I’ve never explored the “manosphere” in any real depth as that type of thing offends me, bores me or both.
    I enjoyed Man of Steel but my major issues with it where with Zod and Jor-El, as I felt they were both misguided. For all that Zod had been genetically engineered to be a soldier, he had all the military finesse of Custer and there must have been no quality oversight when he was produced. I felt the same thing about Jor-El, as I am still not certain why he did what he did.

  2. Ben Avery says:

    I think the biggest news here is that there is a curling movie.

    With Leslie Neilson.

    What is this curling movie? Was “Men with Brooms” the actual title?

    The curling episode of Corner Gas is my favorite of the series. Meanwhile, curling is the ONLY sport I follow in the Olympics . . . which is the only reason I follow any Olympics.

  3. Rachel Kolar says:

    I didn’t get why Nice Guys were so creepy when I first listened to this because the female equivalent (Seasons 1-3 Willow Rosenberg, or Taylor Swift singing “Can’t you seeee you belong with meeee”) is much less awful; with the girl version, it’s more likely to be a girl who happens to fall in love with her guy friend, not a guy who stalkerishly befriends a girl specifically to call dibs on her. Then I started watching “Freaks and Geeks” for the first time, and the one-two punch of “Carded and Discarded” (the one with the transfer student) and “Girlfriends and Boyfriends” (the one where Sam joins yearbook to get with Cindy) nearly made me rage quit. I get that the geeks’ behavior in “Carded and Discarded” was supposed to be comically jerkish, but I also got the sense that we were ultimately supposed to sympathize with them, which I emphatically did not. But then, “Freaks and Geeks” has started yanking my lady chains on a few different levels lately. (For a show with a female protagonist, it sure doesn’t seem too interested in having many other female characters.)

    By the way, have either of you read “The Stand”? There’s a FANTASTIC Nice Guy villain in there. (Sadly, the book utterly craps out at the end, but then, it’s Stephen King.)

    • Leeman says:

      So much of Freaks and Geeks made me feel uncomfortable for so many reasons. For all my horror bona fides, I have not read any King. Shame on me, I know. I did see that one part of a movie where he plays a bumbling farmer who discovers an asteroid and horrible things happen to him so that has to count for something, right?

      • Rachel Kolar says:

        Oh, thank goodness. I’ve heard so many great things about Freaks and Geeks that I thought I was just looking for reasons to be offended, but I am having SUCH issues with it right now. (I really, really liked a few of the early episodes, particularly “Tricks and Treats,” but it’s ticking me off tremendously at the moment.)

        If you’re interested in giving King a try, I recommend starting with either “The Shining” or “Misery.” “The Shining” is possibly his best book–great supernatural horror and a good use of a bunch of his themes and ideas before he started overrelying on them–and “Misery” is tight psychological horror goodness. You might also want to give “Pet Semetary” a read BEFORE Unnamed Offspring Project arrives–reading it as a new parent was one of the dumbest things I’ve ever done.

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